Twelve Conversations David Bohm

1. What is truth and what is reality - 18 May 1975 Duration: 70 minutes What is truth and what is reality? Anything that thought thinks about or reflects upon or projects, that is reality. And that reality has nothing to do with truth. The art of seeing is to place reality where it is, and not move that in order to get truth. You can't get truth. How am I to empty that consciousness and yet retain knowledge – otherwise I couldn't function – and reach a state which will comprehend reality? 2. Seeing 'what is' is action - 24 May 1975 Duration: 122 minutes If truth is something totally different from reality then what place has action in daily life, in relation to truth and reality? Seeing 'what is' is action. What place has love in truth? Code: BRGSCB1-12-A-ENG Copyright © 1975, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Ltd. jkrishnamurti.org J. KRISHNAMURTI When I separate you, in that separation love cannot exist. How are you to convey the sense of truth to a student? As long as I live in the field of reality, which has its own energy, that energy will not free me. When the mind is empty, when the mind is nothing, not a thing, in that there is perception. 3. Thought cannot bring about an insight - 31 May 1975 Duration: 81 minutes Is there a thinking without the word? The action brought about by thought into the investigation of an analysis is always incomplete. Insight is complete. It is not fragmented as thought is. So thought cannot bring about an insight. I must have an insight into conditioning otherwise I can't dissolve it. What takes place when I have an insight that the observer is the observed? In nothingness there is complete security and stability. 4. The intelligence of love - 14 June 1975 Duration: 87 minutes Why has desire become such an extraordinarily important thing in life? How does desire arise from perception? Can I desire truth? Is the energy of nothingness different from the energy of things? Is that nothingness a hypothesis, a theory, a verbal structure, or truth? In dying to the reality only then there is nothingness. 5. Attention implies that there is no centre - 22 June 1975 Duration: 126 minutes Consciousness, because it is in constant movement, has never found an energy which is not contradictory, which is not produced by desire and thought. Can thought ever see its own movement and the futility of its own movement? Attention implies that there is no centre. Is there a perception, a seeing outside the space which is part of consciousness? Therearetwohumanbeings,onegetsconditionedandtheotherdoesn't.Why? How has it happened the other doesn't get conditioned? How does this perception which is beyond attention, beyond awareness, beyond concentration come about? Thought is rather superficial, it's merely a very small part of the operation of the brain. Can consciousness be completely empty of its content? Order and disorder 6. Perceiving without the perceiver - 28 June 1975 Duration: 139 minutes Can thought naturally cease? Perceiving without the perceiver Facing the truth of death Krishnamurti's 'process' and early years. Kundalini If you can understand suffering, face it and not escape from it, that has quite a different energy. Truth is a pathless land. There is something really tremendously mysterious. Knowledge is becoming the curse. When the mind, with all the confusion, is nothing, not a thing, then perhaps there is the other.